the revelations of Marco Mouly on the documentary "The kings of the scam"

FIGARO LIVE - The famous scammer, sentenced to eight years in prison for VAT fraud on carbon quotas, is releasing this Wednesday, September 14 a book entitled The mare (Harper Collins). Guest of "Buzz TV", he recounts his incredible escape.

TV MAGAZINE. - You often claim that you cannot read or write. How did you manage to write The marewhich is coming out this Wednesday, September 14?
Marco Mouly. – Me, I speak, and Julie Madar writes the book with her pen of madness. She is so into the subject that she understood. Even her, she asked me when we were going on the run, so she lived the story. I am amazed by his pen. We talk about love in this book. She had a blast and it's her work.

On July 7, 2016, you decide to go on the run from the toilets of the courthouse, where you learn that you have been sentenced to eight years in prison...
It was expected! I decided to go to court. I said to myself: “if I take five years, I have three years left to do”. When I realized that I was going to stay behind bars for eight years, I told myself that it was going to be very hard, so I might as well have fun. And the run, I did it. To get out of the courthouse without getting arrested, I put on a lawyer's robe, put on red glasses and pretended to have a chat with my wife on the phone.

“I was on Interpol's red list! »

Marco Mouly, author of the book "La Cavale"

Your adventures are worthy of the greatest Hollywood blockbusters. Are you a mythomaniac?
All my stories are true, it's no use talking bullshit. Lies are for business. And then, the words go away, the writings, which are in the hands of Justice, remain. Besides, the police have my fake plane tickets and my fake papers. The whole world wanted to catch me! I was on the Interpol red list. I tell you on this set: I will do everything to go see Poutine. I want to and I think I will. You will see if my stories are true or false!

Why did you decide to publicize your story so much?
I have never cried in my life, even when my father died. The only time tears flow is when I see my Instagram posts, when I read the stories of women who are raising seven children, and who have nothing to eat... God gave me this light , thanks to which I earn my living. I want to help people. After death, I believe there is another life and we will pay the bill. I want to be able to show that I have done good.

You like to show off. Aren't you a megalomaniac?
It's business! Because if ever you're not dressed and you don't have the watch, the guy with the money will know. In this environment, we know how much your suit is worth, and your jacket… The undermining is very important. When you put on a cashmere shirt, something flashy, it pays off because you end up with business.

Do you understand that some French people are shocked that you are so present in the media?
In life, when you make mistakes that aren't violent, they can be corrected and forgiven. To all those who don't like me, I ask them this question: Why do you come to see me? Why are you coming to my Instagram account to criticize me? When I don't like someone, I don't even want to see them. The problem is that people have nothing to do. I don't give a shit about people who don't like me.

A fraud of 283 million euros

In the epilogue of your book, the reader learns that you are going to repay in three years the 283 million euros that you have stolen. How are you going to do it?
I wanted to move on and tell the civil servants at Bercy that if they didn't let me work, I wouldn't keep my promise. There, they accepted, and I have already reimbursed around 87 million euros. So I'm getting by, and I'm doing very well

What job do you do today?
I live from my work. I set up a box which is already listed on the stock exchange. As I have no right to manage it, someone replaces me and I work behind the scenes. Tomorrow, when I have the right to drive it, I will get my company back.

“In “The Kings of the Scam”, Greg Zaoui was an extra”

Marco Mouly, author of the book "La Cavale".

Of the 283 million euros you stole, how much do you have left?
I had accomplices! Besides, Greg Zaoui was not the mastermind. I had the idea to put it in the Netflix documentary because I was afraid of the police for the show. He wanted to impersonate the mastermind, and I gave him permission. But it was not he who found the carbon. An eight-year-old can steal VAT! The story of the "Scam King" is based on three people. Greg Zaoui was an extra in the film.

So Grégory Zaoui has no connection with this scam?
None! I deceived the Netflix teams. When they arrive, they ask me to talk about everything. I told them I wanted to take someone who thinks they're the mastermind. That way, if the cops want to see me, I'll tell them it's not me, it's the brains. So now that it went well, the truth must be told: Greg Zaoui was never in my business. He never touched my carbon.

Are you definitely stopping scams?
To say that would be lying. Today, I will no longer steal and cheat. I would never say "Fountain, I will not drink your water the day I am thirsty".

Will your story be adapted into fiction?
They ask me not to talk about it... In any case, it's signed. It will be on a platform in the form of a series and a film.

You went as a guest several times in “Touche pas à mon poste” on C8. What connection do you have with the host of the show Cyril Hanouna?
I love it. These are sibling relationships. He does a business, it's very hard what he does. Every time he calls me to come to his set, even if I'm abroad, I go there because I really love him. He can count on me as I can count on him. He is a whole man.

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